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you go you're gonna go right down to

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zero boom the thing launches right yeah

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and then you go you'll take it you'll

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you know then the engines will cut after

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eight and a half minutes and either

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you're in orbit or today you mean on the

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real day you'll probably be in orbit

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after those eight minutes yes and then

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but what will happen today is probably

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not that on all the runs right probably

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not you know there's probably a good

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spread uh you know i'd say we practice a

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transatlantic abort landing we'll

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practice probably an rtls return to

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launch site

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we'll practice uh an abort to orbit

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there's a whole bunch of different

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flavors you know accent you got all

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these different you know

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tangents that you can take yeah it's

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just uh all these different options and

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you gotta you know pick the the best

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option sometimes the best option isn't

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fun

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but it's the safest option at the time

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what do you what do you get out of these

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sims i mean because obviously you i mean

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you may i mean it might be that you're

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going to get a

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you might have to you might have to do

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one of these aborts for real but but

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you're getting more than that and it's

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not just practicing your board right

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what do you look to get out of your team

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today as the flight director

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you know

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i've been working with a lot of these

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guys for years now so i pretty much they

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know me i know them you have any ritual

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you'll do on that date no is there

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anything you have certain for breakfast

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or uh you know what you're gonna i i do

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wear a certain tie or anything the the

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tie um

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i'll figure that out i'm gonna have a

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nice tie you know

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um the nice one today thank you very

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very much appreciate that

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um but what i'll do is uh

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it's just uh you know the drive in just

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kind of get my my thoughts together

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that's that's kind of when i put stuff

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together and i always have listen to

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yeah sometimes it just depends on the

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morning but yeah usually i have a you

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know a diet coke or something i gotta

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get the diet

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so you know

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that's about the biggest ritual but

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that's every day all right how are you

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doing good good to see you man jim how

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you doing

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so where's your tie

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i only wear it on special occasions

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since i don't i don't usually dress up

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much yeah you got to save it just for

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the right time otherwise it's not

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special

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you know that's a good point yeah

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he looks the same way every time every

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day you know where your game jersey on

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uh on when you're practicing in the mud

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that's right

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he's got a good point there i get dirty

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i roll my sleeves up i get ready that's

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right i get ready to go that's right all

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right well we don't want to distract you

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what are you doing you're going to

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you're going to sign in yeah just

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getting everything set all right so we

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are getting ready for the asset sim this

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morning our fourth one with the 133 crew

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and what do you what are you guys going

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to be doing during this

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dub your ground control here's the thing

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right it says ground control

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controllers are responsible for the

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building itself making sure that

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everything is operating so that the rest

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of the team can get telemetry into the

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building we can get commands up to the

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arbiter also coordinating with the

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network in this case a simulated network

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that's generated by a model over in

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building 5 with where the other

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simulators are

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and our job is to make sure we have

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telemetry command and voice capability

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with the arbiter whatever that breaks

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which we're expecting to happen several

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times this morning okay then we've got

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to work with the team to restore it as

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quickly as possible all right and then

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it's saying one uh same thing during the

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flight safely

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tell us your name what are you doing uh

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i am mark mcdonald my name is margaret

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mcdonald and that's the spider this is

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did you go to boston you went to boston

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university i did that's pretty cool

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because most people go to texas to texas

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a m around there's a lot of those yeah

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yeah

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and i went to colorado you went to

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colorado along with our guidance officer

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really with the colorado too this is

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their it's the buff trench so this is

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like the 9th

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we are we don't nebraska know what he

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talked about the buff trench was that

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the bus

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hello i see but you grew up in that

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nebraska colorado river

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see i'm from new york i have no idea

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because we just have fights between

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families all right so uh what do we got

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what do we got going here what are you

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doing right now which what's going to be

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your job this morning uh what we

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typically do both pre-launch and

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pre-simulation as we get the uh the

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targets guidance targets uh ready for

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launch based on the station state vector

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and then that's called the i wise so

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that's where the shuttle is going to

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steer too okay um so by target you mean

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like where you want to put the space

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shuttle so that it can correct hit the

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uh the space station correct so we're

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setting it up to ronnie on flight day

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three okay but you already know that

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right i mean you've figured this out for

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for years right i mean uh for a long

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time i mean you know where the station's

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gonna be right but is this something it

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might be a little bit you gotta it might

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be different today or is it gonna be

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different altitude will vary flight to

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flight

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and our uh topo officers keep track of

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that uh very closely they have to telpo

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what does that stand for that's uh

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operations thank you thank you

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operations officer that's the trajectory

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person on the station side

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i'm the fido lackey basically

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i provide things like that and coffee

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and of course they're having to maintain

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a trajectory in coordination with the

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russians and other uh partners to make

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sure that all the visiting vehicles are

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going to be able to rendezvous

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given their their performance

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capabilities in relation to the what's

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that what's that tell you mom that's a

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ring behind me

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mom i'm right in the middle of something

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all right tell me you're busy

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all right so

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you really didn't that's how you picked

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all right so we've got we've got brian

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lenny here you're a flight director good

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morning brian thanks for that you're

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very busy but we appreciate you taking a

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break glad to be here and you you're a

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flight director you've done uh

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you've done shuttle station

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you're also acid is that right okay if

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you can tell us what's going on back

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here so for each front row person

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there's usually a couple of back room

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people helping them out the back room

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position usually is a smaller piece of

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the front room position so that that

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individual can come in from college or

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whatever newer guy and learn that

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smaller piece learn the other smaller

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piece then move out to the front room

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right here we have the flight flight

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room yes sir

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mission control

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in the back rooms we have the flight

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dynamics mipser multi-purpose support

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room we call them okay and these folks

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are supporting the flight dynamics and

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the guidance and procedures officer here

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we have our navigation folks helping us

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figure out where we're at which is an

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important function we think right

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so these guys help us determine where

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we're at so that we know where we need

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to go that's good here we have dynamics

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folks okay they feed into who who are

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they fido flight dynamics officer okay

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guys the two guys down front okay that's

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so all these folks back here

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feed into those

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two positions in front most disciplines

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the systems disciplines will have one or

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two guys in the back room okay flight

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dynamics has a whole lot more it could

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because there's a whole lot more going

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on at those consoles and what they're

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supporting and plus it's only for ascent

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and entry that they do that and but why

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why is this so important during asset

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why is this uh

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obvious it's so dynamic yeah you got

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your three main engines driving you got

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your two big srbs driving and the

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vehicle's going uh hopefully in the

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right direction of course and they're

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monitoring the performance to be sure

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that we hit our mico targets at the

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right time and if you don't hit your

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miko target your ball engine cutoff

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sorry main engine cut off targets your

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velocity your glide path angle

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a couple other important parameters to

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make sure that

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you're going in the right direction in

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order to get the station if you don't do

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that correctly you may not even get to

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orbit right and what did what can they

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control because they could you know when

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you're inside the shuttle and the thing

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goes it's kind of like well this thing's

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on its way and we're going wherever we

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want but they can actually uh adjust

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what's going on while we're sitting here

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taking our ride they will ask the pilot

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to adjust for example a throttle setting

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okay change how fast the the throttles

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engines throttle up from 104 percent

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down to 66 percent for example or

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whatever they need to do okay sometimes

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you go to max throttles for certain main

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engine out cases in contingency abort

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cases right um one of the

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counter-intuitive things they'll ask you

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to do is

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throttle back so you can burn longer for

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towel targets which always makes people

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confuse going over the ocean if we

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measure there yes if we lose an engine

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early we end up going over lane aiming

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for landing in europe they'll ask them

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to throttle back so that we can go

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longer

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yeah it sort of helps us it helps the

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miko targets again the main engine cut

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off targets okay so on this side of the

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back that's what we got here you have

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the system for the systems uh background

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personnel

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and uh for example right here we have

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the computer folks the

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data processing system

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uh supporting the the dps officer up

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front we have the enco back room who

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take care of the communications

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instrumentation on board okay making

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sure the s-band and the tdrs and the

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ground and

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talking to the myla crown sites are

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working well

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over on the far end you have the max

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mechanical focus taking care of all the

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mechanical devices on board the vent

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doors the landing gear all those big

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things like that

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and then the electrical folks are

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kind of in between there eagles

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supporting eagle they took care of the

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electro electrical fuel cells and

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distribution of electricity throughout

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the vehicle then the life support guys

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and the thermal guys support the ecom

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they take care of of course life support

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make sure the cabin air is good and the

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thermal make sure we're doing cooling on

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the vehicle of course the inside of the

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vehicle you generate a tremendous amount

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of heat from all the computers that are

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turned on

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so we can have water loops and frame

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loops that pull that heat out of the

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and also through the fence all right

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then over here we slap evacuate a flap

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evaporator memory system all right

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acronyms okay acronyms

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guidance navigation control this is the

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back room that makes sure they can

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control the vehicle we've got sensors

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and controls takes both so they're sort

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of the steering wheel if you will of the

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vehicle for a car

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and then on the far side you have the

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propulsion guys and the booster guys the

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prop guys

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do the ohms rcs which are the small

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rocket engines you don't see during

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launch

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but you do use during entry to the left

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of them is the booster mat back room

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that does the main engines that are the

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big rocket engines we see at launch

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so again the same idea take one

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discipline one systems guy out front and

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break his system up in a couple of small

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pieces and then divvy it up here in the

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back room for someone to specialize in

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so they can learn that discipline and

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then train them to help you out during

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the during the flight who made the cake

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you make the cake

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what's your name kathy b paint cathy

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what's your last name view pain

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uh-huh

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and you make every one of these cakes i

335
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do indeed i do i do every mission this

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is the special launch cake

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which is the carrot cake yes we've only

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changed it a couple times and they don't

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like it when we change it all right so

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this is why it is one of the reasons you

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simulate you have a simulation as well

342
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let's make sure everybody likes a cake

343
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yeah it's kind of a simple well we

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haven't had a mission in quite a while

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so i sim them every once in a while and

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i've discovered i have a thermal issue

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with my uh

348
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with my oven so it'll have to be fixed

349
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before we go to launch

350
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that's why we simulate it's not just to

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make sure that we know what we're doing

352
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with the space shuttles that you get the

353
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cake rice that's right and you can make

354
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changes you can adapt to the chicken all

355
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right so

356
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so they can't fly without my cake all

357
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right what else did you do here beside

358
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the cake though i used to be a tao i

359
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used to sit down the trajectory

360
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applications officer would manage the

361
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server that uh

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produces the trajectory during the

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flight but now i work for fdoc and so i

364
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think outside

365
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but what does yeah it's a new contract

366
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so i do mostly sustaining work and uh

367
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contract paperwork okay and and the

368
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cakes and the cake well yeah i come to

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do support for mission so i support the

370
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three primary phases so okay so it's the

371
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carrot cake for us

372
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there's a coffee cake for a rendezvous

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and there's a chocolate cherry cake for

374
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landing

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that's the final dc turn around for run

376
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number uh three colors

377
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all right so how'd it go wow that was a

378
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that was probably the oddest rtls i've

379
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ever seen i don't know if you guys saw

380
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the trajectory up front but uh we've i

381
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don't think we got any film of it but uh

382
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we can see a little bit over here can

383
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you see it what are we seeing here

384
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that's just the uh that's the nominal

385
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part that the the crew had to take

386
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manual control to overcome an engine out

387
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that was not recognized and

388
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uh gosh the

389
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it was it was a rough one but uh

390
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successful but you made it back yeah

391
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from the same perspective

392
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yes

393
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i am the acid entry econ for 133 okay

394
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which means what which means that i work

395
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launch and landing and i take care of

396
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all the environmental control systems

397
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from the shadows

398
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the air they breathe their temperature

399
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control

400
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the water they drink all the good stuff

401
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and uh what happened you've had two

402
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you've had this is a sim day simulation

403
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day morning

404
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but you can fit a few different runs of

405
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simulations in those four hours so

406
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you've had two so far how's it going so

407
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far um so far it's been pretty good we

408
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had a cabin leak the first run that we

409
00:13:00,150 --> 00:12:58,639
were able to i was coming out of the

410
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cabin all right you're able to stop it

411
00:13:03,509 --> 00:13:02,000
yeah it turned out it was in the airlock

412
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so thank goodness we were able to stop

413
00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:05,120
it well then you can't use the airlock

414
00:13:09,509 --> 00:13:06,880
right okay well it depends on the leak

415
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size if you can give it some consumables

416
00:13:12,629 --> 00:13:10,880
on board to be able to feed the lake

417
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then sometimes you can reopen the

418
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airlock just to get certain things out

419
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and then close it back up tight okay

420
00:13:18,069 --> 00:13:16,880
because you need that for the tunnel to

421
00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:18,079
get to the space station don't you

422
00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:19,760
exactly if you dock that could be an

423
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issue okay so you'd have if this was a

424
00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:24,079
real problem you'd be figuring out

425
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whether or not you could if we had

426
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enough gas on board to be able to feed

427
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the leak yeah and get things out and we

428
00:13:32,310 --> 00:13:30,720
have to go in there anyway and get out

429
00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:32,320
the suits because you don't want the

430
00:13:35,910 --> 00:13:34,399
suit the eva suits to get down to vacuum

431
00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:35,920
because that can decertify them so we

432
00:13:39,829 --> 00:13:37,360
got to go in there and pull those things

433
00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:39,839
out and close it all back up all right

434
00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:40,800
all right but you found out where the

435
00:13:44,629 --> 00:13:42,480
leak was did you end up stopping it then

436
00:13:46,069 --> 00:13:44,639
or no yeah we stopped it and we closed

437
00:13:47,750 --> 00:13:46,079
up the airlock completely made sure that

438
00:13:49,189 --> 00:13:47,760
we can completely isolate it and then

439
00:13:51,110 --> 00:13:49,199
once we knew that we could close it out

440
00:13:52,629 --> 00:13:51,120
then we reopened it got the suits out

441
00:13:54,150 --> 00:13:52,639
and closed it back up tight okay you did

442
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this after the afternoon launched and

443
00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:55,519
you had him doing this stuff we had him

444
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doing all this

445
00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:57,680
post

446
00:14:00,870 --> 00:13:58,959
okay so that's what you had the crew

447
00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:00,880
doing after that so you had to leak all

448
00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:02,320
the way through the ascent well we

449
00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:03,920
picked it up about i think about five

450
00:14:07,189 --> 00:14:05,519
minutes into the first place but it was

451
00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:07,199
until the crew got out of their seats to

452
00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:08,800
close it yeah there's some valves on the

453
00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:10,240
airlock couches that they close and

454
00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:12,720
that'll stop it okay good all right so

455
00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:14,560
uh that was the first drone you said

456
00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:16,240
yeah what happened on the second the

457
00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:17,920
second practice the second run we didn't

458
00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:20,079
have too much it was an rtls run and so

459
00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:21,519
for us it was just monitoring all the

460
00:14:24,949 --> 00:14:22,880
numbers

461
00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:24,959
to come back around yes okay so we're

462
00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:26,320
monitoring all the normal stuff we're

463
00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:27,680
going through all of our different

464
00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:29,760
cooling configurations that we use going

465
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uphill and then coming back down

466
00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:33,760
so we were on the fest going uphill

467
00:14:36,870 --> 00:14:35,360
which is the flash flash evaporator

468
00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:36,880
system

469
00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:39,040
for a while and then post miko post

470
00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:40,959
engine shutdown then we go to ammonia

471
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and we use it we have ammonia cooling to

472
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the ground on an rtls so just monitoring

473
00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:46,399
all that phenomenal stuff making sure

474
00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:47,680
everything goes okay now you talked

475
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about breathing air for the crew and

476
00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:51,120
temperature for the for the crew but

477
00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:52,720
it's well it's temperature for this

478
00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:54,240
equipment too right because that's

479
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really what's i mean that's generates a

480
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lot of heat right i mean we have a lot

481
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of hot air

482
00:15:02,230 --> 00:15:00,560
but uh but it's also the heat from the

483
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uh from the equipment from the vehicle

484
00:15:05,590 --> 00:15:03,920
yeah the first run actually we did have

485
00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:05,600
some problems with cooling the flash

486
00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:07,680
evaporator shut down so we had to go

487
00:15:10,949 --> 00:15:09,360
through and do some restarts on that and

488
00:15:12,150 --> 00:15:10,959
restore cooling

489
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because if you get cooling on the

490
00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:13,600
vehicle you have to come home that's so

491
00:15:16,389 --> 00:15:15,040
good you need any time of cooling it's

492
00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:16,399
very important right all right so you

493
00:15:19,750 --> 00:15:17,760
handle the coil it's not just keeping

494
00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:19,760
the crew comfy but keeping the space

495
00:15:24,069 --> 00:15:22,000
shuttle the entire vehicle

496
00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:24,079
comfy when you've got you we saw some

497
00:15:26,870 --> 00:15:25,440
folks in your back room that are feeding

498
00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:26,880
you information and you're working here

499
00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:28,320
with the flight director right i have

500
00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:29,839
two great back rooms i have a life

501
00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:31,680
support and a thermal all right and if

502
00:15:35,189 --> 00:15:32,959
you do information so you can help make

503
00:15:36,790 --> 00:15:35,199
decisions based on the data here exactly

504
00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:36,800
how do you like doing this stuff i like

505
00:15:39,910 --> 00:15:38,480
it a lot it is you like coming to work

506
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this morning it was like oh darn it i've

507
00:15:43,030 --> 00:15:40,959
got to see

508
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what was it this is an exciting thing to

509
00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:44,720
be able to come and do yeah come in here

510
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and do that yeah it's really great

511
00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:47,279
training how'd you get to do this stuff

512
00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:48,480
is it something you want to do since you

513
00:15:51,749 --> 00:15:50,560
were younger i did actually i wanted to

514
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do it probably since i was in junior

515
00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:53,600
high so did you or what since i was in

516
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junior high probably junior high yeah so

517
00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:56,959
it's been a while would you grow up

518
00:16:00,389 --> 00:15:58,800
around here i did i grew up in clear

519
00:16:02,150 --> 00:16:00,399
lake went to clay lake high school oh so

520
00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:02,160
my kid's going out oh really yeah so

521
00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:05,519
maybe it was this home maybe

522
00:16:10,389 --> 00:16:08,000
that's a nice school to go to i did yeah

523
00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:10,399
yeah it was great okay all right so

524
00:16:12,790 --> 00:16:11,680
thanks very much for visiting with us

525
00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:12,800
you got another one coming up here

526
00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:14,320
quickly yeah a couple more i think we

527
00:16:18,150 --> 00:16:15,920
might have a break though first

528
00:16:19,829 --> 00:16:18,160
here okay what's going on for me with

529
00:16:21,189 --> 00:16:19,839
the crew right now yeah all right do you

530
00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:21,199
need to pay attention to what's going on

531
00:16:23,749 --> 00:16:22,320
i didn't have any failures so i'm

532
00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:23,759
probably okay

533
00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:25,600
thanks sarah

534
00:16:29,749 --> 00:16:27,600
you're the booster guy correct so we're

535
00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:29,759
looking at the three engines we're

536
00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,399
looking at data for the external tank

537
00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:34,800
data for the solid rocket boosters and

538
00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:36,320
data for some of the valves within the

539
00:16:40,310 --> 00:16:38,800
orbiter okay and some of our data was

540
00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:40,320
telling us that the center engine might

541
00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:42,240
have failed might have failed might have

542
00:16:44,949 --> 00:16:43,680
failed we couldn't confirm that it was

543
00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:44,959
out okay

544
00:16:48,949 --> 00:16:46,959
and so a lot of the discussion just just

545
00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:48,959
went on about how we could confirm that

546
00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:50,560
it was out if we didn't have some some

547
00:16:55,350 --> 00:16:53,199
backup cues all right and uh

548
00:16:57,990 --> 00:16:55,360
we ended up going on an rtls or return

549
00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:58,000
to launch site trajectory okay

550
00:17:00,710 --> 00:16:59,360
and you should but that was not the

551
00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:00,720
right thing maybe to do no it was the

552
00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:02,399
right thing to do the engine had failed

553
00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:04,720
it did yeah it took us about a minute to

554
00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:06,720
figure out that yes it was out

555
00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:09,120
and uh so we had the crew perform the

556
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:12,240
rtls support okay so it'll work out okay

557
00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:14,160
it did all right what was it like for

558
00:17:17,909 --> 00:17:16,240
you was it pretty hairy it was hairy for

559
00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:17,919
the first couple minutes because you

560
00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:19,520
couldn't tell if that engine was running

561
00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:21,039
and the flight director is looking for

562
00:17:24,630 --> 00:17:23,039
you to to tell them yes or no and they

563
00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:24,640
just don't have any data telling you i'm

564
00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:26,480
telling you either way so what made you

565
00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:28,640
decide that it actually was out

566
00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:30,000
when we got to

567
00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:32,559
near we got near srv separation

568
00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:35,600
the acceleration was about

569
00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:37,280
0.6 g's

570
00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:38,799
and when the solid rockets were going to

571
00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,960
leave exactly right normally it's about

572
00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:42,559
0.9 g's

573
00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:43,520
so

574
00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:45,360
our inclination was that yeah it had

575
00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:47,919
failed and we told the crew to to get

576
00:17:51,909 --> 00:17:50,080
ready for the our tls aboard okay so

577
00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:51,919
that's what that's what it was all right

578
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:53,919
cool so so how do you like doing this

579
00:17:58,549 --> 00:17:55,520
was it fun for you or was it oh it's a

580
00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:58,559
blast yeah it's stressful literally yeah

581
00:18:02,390 --> 00:18:01,039
yeah it's stressful but it's fun exactly

582
00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:02,400
yeah all right

583
00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:03,760
they have to make it stressful on us

584
00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:05,280
here in the simulations and give us a

585
00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:07,520
lot of crazy failures because you know

586
00:18:12,870 --> 00:18:09,760
when that one thing if one thing does

587
00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:12,880
fail on uh actual launch day it can be

588
00:18:17,909 --> 00:18:15,120
very stressful right and how long you've

589
00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:17,919
been doing this rick for just over four

590
00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:19,679
years four years and this

591
00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:22,240
this flight sts-133 will be my first

592
00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:24,320
flight as booster in the in the front

593
00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:25,760
room in the front room so you're pretty

594
00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:28,080
excited oh yeah yeah it'll be it'll be a